{"id":9615,"date":"2025-07-23T15:30:22","date_gmt":"2025-07-23T22:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/billbymel.com\/Staging\/?page_id=9615"},"modified":"2026-04-06T04:41:12","modified_gmt":"2026-04-06T11:41:12","slug":"july-23-2025-bill-bymbel-debt-doctor-with-ryan-poole","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/billbymel.com\/Staging\/july-23-2025-bill-bymbel-debt-doctor-with-ryan-poole\/","title":{"rendered":"DD Podcast-Episode-15"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\">[vc_row][vc_column][mk_padding_divider size=&#8221;100&#8243;][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][mk_page_section bg_color=&#8221;#f3f3f3&#8243; min_height=&#8221;0&#8243; el_class=&#8221;banner_bg&#8221; sidebar=&#8221;sidebar-1&#8243;][vc_column][vc_row_inner css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1692700055217{margin-bottom: 0px !important;}&#8221;][vc_column_inner width=&#8221;1\/3&#8243; css=&#8221;.vc_custom_1692700028762{margin-bottom: 0px !important;}&#8221;][vc_single_image image=&#8221;10755&#8243; img_size=&#8221;medium&#8221; 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CEO at RealTrade.<\/p>\n<p>The forces reshaping today\u2019s real estate landscape &#8211; from the rise of AI and the ongoing &#8220;Portal Wars,&#8221; to the condo market crisis and the lingering lessons of 2008 &#8211; our conversation zeroes in on the value of returning to the fundamentals.<\/p>\n<p>We reflect on borrower relationships, market dislocations, and how creative loss mitigation approaches can still turn a profit &#8211; especially in distressed markets. With deep insight into the rental and commercial sectors, Ryan also shares how technology is driving the next wave of opportunity for investors who know where to look.<\/p>\n<p>This is not just a look back, it\u2019s a call forward. For those operating in the secondary mortgage market or eyeing distressed real estate, this episode offers both context and clarity for where capital, caution, and creativity intersect next.<\/p>\n<p>Investor Takeaways:<br \/>\n\u2022 Open borrower communication remains a vital tool in workout strategies<br \/>\n\u2022 Lessons from the 2008 crisis still guide us today, especially in NP loan resolution<br \/>\n\u2022 Commercial assets face liquidity risk amid rising rates and stricter terms<br \/>\n\u2022 Florida\u2019s condo market reflects the regulatory shifts and investor opportunity windows<br \/>\n\u2022 AI is a competitive edge, not just a buzzword<\/p>\n<p>About Our Guest:<br \/>\nRyan Poole is Founder &amp; CEO of <a href=\"https:\/\/realtrade.io\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RealTrade<\/a>. Connect further with Ryan on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ryan-poole-0b50b9162\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">LinkedIn<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>To advertise with Debt Doctor or request a podcast topic, please email podcast@billbybmel.com.<\/p>\n<p>First Lien Capital is your trusted investment and resolutions partner delivering security and strong returns while making real impact, and your Special Assets Group for hire delivering customized solutions to your distressed real estate debt scenarios.<\/p>\n<p>Schedule a consultation with Bill to <a href=\"http:\/\/billbymel.com\/Staging\/investor\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ELEVATE<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/billbymel.com\/Staging\/advisor\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">REVIVE<\/a> your portfolio today.<\/p>\n<p>Stay connected with Bill Bymel: <a href=\"https:\/\/linktr.ee\/billbymel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/linktr.ee\/billbymel<\/a>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row 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This episode of Debt Doctor, is a return to fundamentals conversation with Ryan Poole, Founder &amp; CEO at RealTrade. The forces reshaping today\u2019s real estate landscape &#8211; from the rise of AI and the ongoing &#8220;Portal Wars,&#8221; to the condo market crisis and the lingering lessons of 2008 &#8211; our conversation zeroes in on the value of returning to the fundamentals. We reflect on borrower relationships, market dislocations, and how creative loss mitigation approaches can still turn a profit &#8211; especially in distressed markets. With deep insight into the rental and commercial sectors, Ryan also shares how technology is driving the next wave of opportunity for investors who know where to look. This is not just a look back, it\u2019s a call forward. For those operating in the secondary mortgage market or eyeing distressed real estate, this episode offers both context and clarity for where capital, caution, and creativity intersect next. Investor Takeaways: \u2022 Open borrower communication remains a vital tool in workout strategies \u2022 Lessons from the 2008 crisis still guide us today, especially in NP loan resolution \u2022 Commercial assets face liquidity risk amid rising rates and stricter terms \u2022 Florida\u2019s condo market reflects the regulatory shifts and investor opportunity windows \u2022 AI is a competitive edge, not just a buzzword About Our Guest: Ryan Poole is Founder &amp; CEO of RealTrade. Connect further with Ryan on LinkedIn. To advertise with Debt Doctor or request a podcast topic, please email podcast@billbybmel.com. First Lien Capital is your trusted investment and resolutions partner delivering security and strong returns while making real impact, and your Special Assets Group for hire delivering customized solutions to your distressed real estate debt scenarios. Schedule a consultation with Bill to ELEVATE or REVIVE your portfolio today. 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